I thought that it might be nice to have one place to discuss the character of Reign as we progress through this season. While I'm a bit sad about the character turning evil, I am very eager to see the extent that the writers will go with the villain. She has the possibility of being quite the formidable foe for Supergirl.
Perhaps we can start with some facts about her that we know at the moment and add to the list as we find out more details.
I'll start a list and I can add to it later. Even though the character exists in the comics, I thought that it might be better to keep those facts off the list until they present themselves as we're not sure what aspects the writers will use from her comic book counterpart. But, feel free to discuss any aspect of the character.
KNOWN DETAILS ON REIGN
Human persona
- Name Samantha
- Adopted
- 12 year old daughter named Ruby (had Ruby when young)
- Father of Ruby unknown
- Known Lena for a long time
- Arrived on Earth when Kal-El did
- Estranged from adopted mother
- Mother found Sam in Krypton pod
- Turned to Reign after a trigger
- Seems to suffer type of split personality (doesn't recall actions as Reign)
- Loses time when Reign
Alien persona
- From Krypton
- Genetically engineered
- Connection with Alura
- World Killer
- Fortress of Sanctuary- in a desert, exact location unknown
- From a time before Fathoming
- Built to cleanse the scourge and deliver the Awakening
- Dispenser of Justice/Vengeance
- Believes that those who stand by and do nothing are guilty of crimes
- Seems to take orders from higher source (hologram)
Powers exhibited
-Super strength
-Invulnerable to bullets
-Super Speed
-Red laser heat
-Flight
-Super Vision
- Freeze breath
-Powers not dependent on yellow sun
-Not as susceptible to electricity as Supergirl
Weakness
-Pure form of kryptonite injected into body
-Psi and other telepaths
Then there is the part of me that wants at the very last minute for Sam to return, but then....no, because we would miss out on some spectacular drama and acting.Love and feel-good happy tears for Ruby - heck no, screw that! We''ll sacrifice that for rip your heart out, gut-wrenching despair
. Agreed. The last time we had that kind of heartbreak and drama in a similar type scenario was the scene in "Falling" when SG was lying on the sun-bed at the DEO after nearly killing Alex, Hank and Cat and telling Alex that she was nothing to her. I felt every moment of anguish in that scene because of Melissa and Chyler's acting. - more than a month ago
- Supergirl General Discussion
- # 121
Considering the emphasis on sisters, I think it is possible Sam has Alura's genes (and may be both Alura's and Zor El's genes) rather than Kara's. Thematically, then she would be Kara's sister. (Using Kara's genes to create her would make her technically, Kara's daughter).
Agreed, Kara and Sam being “sisters” fits better. I’ll add this to that thought if Lex is Ruby’s father then Lena is Sam’s sister in law. Was it foreshadowing when Kara said the three of them are sisters.
Actually if Sam is Kara's 'Sister' and if Lex is the father of RubyThat would also make Ruby, Lillian Luthor's granddaughter. Imagine that, a half-alien granddaughter for the head of Cadmus. And, if something did happen to Sam, which is probable, then wouldn't Lillian have some legal basis for custody?
Wouldn't that make both Kara and Lena as aunts of Ruby?
Btw, Brierrose, when I read that, I had a moment of, "Wait, what? Did I miss something big here?"
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- Supergirl General Discussion
- # 122
What IF, there is an episode where someone is killed and there is DNA left at the scene, it is investigated and found that it is Supergirl's DNA and she is arrested for the murder. In jail, how crazy would that be.....oh, and it was actually Reign that did the killing.
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- more than a month ago
- Supergirl General Discussion
- # 123
Considering the emphasis on sisters, I think it is possible Sam has Alura's genes (and may be both Alura's and Zor El's genes) rather than Kara's. Thematically, then she would be Kara's sister. (Using Kara's genes to create her would make her technically, Kara's daughter).
Agreed, Kara and Sam being “sisters” fits better. I’ll add this to that thought if Lex is Ruby’s father then Lena is Sam’s sister in law. Was it foreshadowing when Kara said the three of them are sisters.
Actually if Sam is Kara's 'Sister' and if Lex is the father of Ruby
Wouldn't that make both Kara and Lena as aunts of Ruby?
- more than a month ago
- Supergirl General Discussion
- # 124
Considering the emphasis on sisters, I think it is possible Sam has Alura's genes (and may be both Alura's and Zor El's genes) rather than Kara's. Thematically, then she would be Kara's sister. (Using Kara's genes to create her would make her technically, Kara's daughter).
Agreed, Kara and Sam being “sisters” fits better. I’ll add this to that thought if Lex is Ruby’s father then Lena is Sam’s sister in law. Was it foreshadowing when Kara said the three of them are sisters.
Hope, Help and Compassion for all
- more than a month ago
- Supergirl General Discussion
- # 125
Considering the emphasis on sisters, I think it is possible Sam has Alura's genes (and may be both Alura's and Zor El's genes) rather than Kara's. Thematically, then she would be Kara's sister. (Using Kara's genes to create her would make her technically, Kara's daughter).
While I really like Odette and wish she would remain post this season, I think it is best for Cadmus to remain the series villain and Reign to be this season's villain.
The DEO can adopt Ruby if needed. However, I hope she won't have as much screentime as now. Or, may be, she will grow up and become interesting. However, I don't want Kara's or Alex's story to be wholly taken up with her.
While I really like Odette and wish she would remain post this season, I think it is best for Cadmus to remain the series villain and Reign to be this season's villain.
The DEO can adopt Ruby if needed. However, I hope she won't have as much screentime as now. Or, may be, she will grow up and become interesting. However, I don't want Kara's or Alex's story to be wholly taken up with her.
- more than a month ago
- Supergirl General Discussion
- # 126
As much as I’m liking Sam and Odette seems like a really good actor, she’s having no problem keeping up with Melissa or Katie, I want Reign to be un-redeemable. Let’s have a part where Sam’s fights the transformation perhaps with Kara and Lena’s help. But once she loses the battle for her humanity I want full on unequivocally evil Reign.
100% agree, if the writers do not go this route I think the writers have missed an opportunity, IMO, that shows them willing to take a huge chance on allowing the audience to fall in love with a character and then have that character go full rogue villain. I don't want another Astra story, already did that....
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- more than a month ago
- Supergirl General Discussion
- # 127
As much as I’m liking Sam and Odette seems like a really good actor, she’s having no problem keeping up with Melissa or Katie, I want Reign to be un-redeemable. Let’s have a part where Sam’s fights the transformation perhaps with Kara and Lena’s help. But once she loses the battle for her humanity I want full on unequivocally evil Reign.
Hope, Help and Compassion for all
- more than a month ago
- Supergirl General Discussion
- # 128
With Reign there is a huge part of me that wants them to go full on scary as heck villain, in that you think she is coming back to Sam, and then BAM.....no she doesn't, with a laugh. Full on fight to the death at some point. I love Odette, but the power of those scenes, and the impact on Kara would be something we have never seen before.
Then there is the part of me that wants at the very last minute for Sam to return, but then....no, because we would miss out on some spectacular drama and acting.
That would be scary if Reign would be the kind of villain to screw with Kara's head like that. By pretending to be Sam for a second just to get a sucker punch in.
Anyway glad to see people want Sam to come in... but with the Middle episode I'm guessing no Sam this week and we have to wait until next week to see how it develops further.
That would be so evil for Reign to pretend to be Sam!
I pictured it like this. If Sam turns into Reign on episode 9 and we have a 22 episode season theres room for them to attempt a cure or fix for her right? Maybe it appears to work and you could get a end credits scene of inside her mind we see Sam imprisoned, and a sinister smile on the face of Reign or something as she pretended to be fixed.
Anyway as for emotionally hurting people...I figure Reign may either kill M'yrnn, Eliza...or perhaps even her own adopted mother. And Sam would be horrified to have been pushed past the point of 'no return' by effectively something she couldn't control.
- more than a month ago
- Supergirl General Discussion
- # 129
Every tv big bad always hurts the hero in an emotional way. And hard. Astra ruined her vision of her own mother. Rhea took away Mon-El. Reverse Flash killed Barry's mom. Zoom killed his father. Savitar made him see Iris be killed. And so on and that makes me wonder what Reign is going to do, but my best guess is to kill Eliza.
- more than a month ago
- Supergirl General Discussion
- # 130
With Reign there is a huge part of me that wants them to go full on scary as heck villain, in that you think she is coming back to Sam, and then BAM.....no she doesn't, with a laugh. Full on fight to the death at some point. I love Odette, but the power of those scenes, and the impact on Kara would be something we have never seen before.
Then there is the part of me that wants at the very last minute for Sam to return, but then....no, because we would miss out on some spectacular drama and acting.
That would be scary if Reign would be the kind of villain to screw with Kara's head like that. By pretending to be Sam for a second just to get a sucker punch in.
Anyway glad to see people want Sam to come in... but with the Middle episode I'm guessing no Sam this week and we have to wait until next week to see how it develops further.
That would be so evil for Reign to pretend to be Sam!
- more than a month ago
- Supergirl General Discussion
- # 131
I don't know that I want Sam to come back as Sam for good.....IMO, that would be very anti-climatic and absolutely no risk taken by the writers.With Reign there is a huge part of me that wants them to go full on scary as heck villain, in that you think she is coming back to Sam, and then BAM.....no she doesn't, with a laugh. Full on fight to the death at some point. I love Odette, but the power of those scenes, and the impact on Kara would be something we have never seen before.
Then there is the part of me that wants at the very last minute for Sam to return, but then....no, because we would miss out on some spectacular drama and acting.
That would be scary if Reign would be the kind of villain to screw with Kara's head like that. By pretending to be Sam for a second just to get a sucker punch in.
Anyway glad to see people want Sam to come in... but with the Middle episode I'm guessing no Sam this week and we have to wait until next week to see how it develops further.
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- more than a month ago
- Supergirl General Discussion
- # 132
With Reign there is a huge part of me that wants them to go full on scary as heck villain, in that you think she is coming back to Sam, and then BAM.....no she doesn't, with a laugh. Full on fight to the death at some point. I love Odette, but the power of those scenes, and the impact on Kara would be something we have never seen before.
Then there is the part of me that wants at the very last minute for Sam to return, but then....no, because we would miss out on some spectacular drama and acting.
That would be scary if Reign would be the kind of villain to screw with Kara's head like that. By pretending to be Sam for a second just to get a sucker punch in.
Anyway glad to see people want Sam to come in... but with the Middle episode I'm guessing no Sam this week and we have to wait until next week to see how it develops further.
- more than a month ago
- Supergirl General Discussion
- # 133
With Reign there is a huge part of me that wants them to go full on scary as heck villain, in that you think she is coming back to Sam, and then BAM.....no she doesn't, with a laugh. Full on fight to the death at some point. I love Odette, but the power of those scenes, and the impact on Kara would be something we have never seen before.
Then there is the part of me that wants at the very last minute for Sam to return, but then....no, because we would miss out on some spectacular drama and acting.
Then there is the part of me that wants at the very last minute for Sam to return, but then....no, because we would miss out on some spectacular drama and acting.
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- more than a month ago
- Supergirl General Discussion
- # 134
Well in episode 7 Sam does go to her (adoptive) mom for answers and I bet that she will have the pod that Reign was sent in and that is where she will get the suit and stuff but I bet her powers work kinda like killer frost`s
Interesting you should say that, Supergirlfan. I was thinking the other day, that's how the show runners could, if they wanted, keep Sam past Season 3--let her be like Kaitlyn. If this season does end up with Sam eventually redeeming herself at the very end--choosing to do a last minute save against a larger foe (i.e a group of worldkiller)--next season Sam's story could mirror Kaitlyn, CHOOSing not to be Reign, and choose not to use her powers. Actually, that would also mirror pre-Supergirl Kara.
But, then again, a horrible side of my wants the full Greek tragedy of us loving Sam, but she, in the end, needs to be destroyed
Good idea and I do agree I do want her to stay and be like Kaitlyn but a large part of me wants her to actually sacrifice herself in the end to the world or something and ends up dying but also the hero and Kara is the one that had the huge lecture to Reign that made Sam come back
Yeah Caitlyn went villain for half a season and still gets to be part of the 'good guys' in Flash season 4. I wonder if it will be possible for her to live any sort of normal life after her crimes though. Especially being a kryptonian with all that power available at her fingertips.
I like the idea of a powered Sam suppressing Reign at the very end and making a last stand against a larger foe. Like maybe even so Ruby's last memory of her mom could be not as a monster but of the mommy she knows and loves.
- more than a month ago
- Supergirl General Discussion
- # 135
Well in episode 7 Sam does go to her (adoptive) mom for answers and I bet that she will have the pod that Reign was sent in and that is where she will get the suit and stuff but I bet her powers work kinda like killer frost`s
Interesting you should say that, Supergirlfan. I was thinking the other day, that's how the show runners could, if they wanted, keep Sam past Season 3--let her be like Kaitlyn. If this season does end up with Sam eventually redeeming herself at the very end--choosing to do a last minute save against a larger foe (i.e a group of worldkiller)--next season Sam's story could mirror Kaitlyn, CHOOSing not to be Reign, and choose not to use her powers. Actually, that would also mirror pre-Supergirl Kara.
But, then again, a horrible side of my wants the full Greek tragedy of us loving Sam, but she, in the end, needs to be destroyed
Good idea and I do agree I do want her to stay and be like Kaitlyn but a large part of me wants her to actually sacrifice herself in the end to the world or something and ends up dying but also the hero and Kara is the one that had the huge lecture to Reign that made Sam come back
- more than a month ago
- Supergirl General Discussion
- # 136
Well in episode 7 Sam does go to her (adoptive) mom for answers and I bet that she will have the pod that Reign was sent in and that is where she will get the suit and stuff but I bet her powers work kinda like killer frost`s
Interesting you should say that, Supergirlfan. I was thinking the other day, that's how the show runners could, if they wanted, keep Sam past Season 3--let her be like Kaitlyn. If this season does end up with Sam eventually redeeming herself at the very end--choosing to do a last minute save against a larger foe (i.e a group of worldkiller)--next season Sam's story could mirror Kaitlyn, CHOOSing not to be Reign, and choose not to use her powers. Actually, that would also mirror pre-Supergirl Kara.
But, then again, a horrible side of my wants the full Greek tragedy of us loving Sam, but she, in the end, needs to be destroyed
- more than a month ago
- Supergirl General Discussion
- # 137
Nice thread Sully.
Something dramatic must happen to Samantha in Episode 7 if she becomes Reign in Episode 9. Given that Samantha is unlikely to be in Episode 6 (Midvale) or Episode 8 (Crossover) it will be interesting to see what happens. I thought they wouldn't introduce her Reign persona till about Episode 15 so they are certainly moving faster than I anticpated.
- Powers exhibited
Invisible to bullets
I may be wrong but is that meant to read Invulnerable to bullets?.
Well in episode 7 Sam does go to her (adoptive) mom for answers and I bet that she will have the pod that Reign was sent in and that is where she will get the suit and stuff but I bet her powers work kinda like killer frost`s
- more than a month ago
- Supergirl General Discussion
- # 138
based on the fact that on every tv show and comic book's big bad knows the superhero's identity either prior or discover later on that raises my suspicions on how Reign is going to find out and when. Then when she does i bet that this will empower Sam and give her the upper hand to take down Reign and at first i thought that this might make Sam a little angry but Sam also kept her secrets so that wouldn't make sense so she couldn't be mad. And will Sam even remember her horrible acts or will it kinda be like blackouts? If she doesn't remember will supergirl confront Sam as herself and be shocked when Sam has no idea what she is talking about? Since episode 6 is all about Alex and Kara and no Sam and Reign will make an appearance in episode nine and then episode 8 will be the crossover and that means no Sam i think Reign will be born in episode 7 which makes perfect sense since Sam does seek answers from her mom and maybe she might have the pod and that is where she gets the suit. and her origin. There was an interview that claimed that Reign's powers will be nothing like Supergirl's and that they will be a surprise. Yes she can is bullet proof, has superstrength, and can fly but i wonder what else she can do. How will this affect Ruby and who is the father? And does Ruby have powers? Will Ruby even know at the beginning that her mom is Reign? Because if the blackout theory is true who knows if Ruby will know when the Reign fallout happens. Will Ruby try to seek help and will Reign even care about Ruby? Who will Ruby go to or will someone go to her? Once Reign finds out her identity will she attack Kara at her house or maybe even at CatCo? Will Reign tell Lena that Supergirl is Kara? Will Reign kidnap Eliza or maybe even Alex? Or possibly Lena? Will there be more worldkillers? so much questions and so little answers.
- more than a month ago
- Supergirl General Discussion
- # 139
Cccrrrraaaaapppp!! Crap crap crap CRAP!!
I just rewatched this week's episode and.... I... LOVE... SAM!! Like.. I would watch a show entirely based on her character. Odette is really good--smooth, believable dialogue deliverance, good facials, just seems like a solid character.
Crap! Crap! Crap! Crap! This is gonna sucketh.
I'm already feeling sad about it......BUT DAMN, THAT IS WHY IT IS SO FREAKING GOOD..........holy crap what a storyline.
Yeah. Part of me wants Sam to be redeemed at the very very end. But then there's the other side that wants the Greek tragedy... like... Full blown, cry it all out Greek tragedy. Lol *hands Kelly an extra box of Kleenex to have on the ready*
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